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Post by Solvani Imperium on Nov 9, 2014 2:36:39 GMT
As much as we all love SE IV, it has plenty of limitations that induce no end of hair-pulling. Let's discuss other options for 4X RP gaming. The first thing is to see what else is out there and in development. Here is a spreadsheet of space-based 4X games. Please add/edit/expand. |
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Post by Dominion of Zabéara on Nov 9, 2014 4:45:20 GMT
This is an amazing list. I just wish I could have something to add to it...I've spent too many years buried in the Space Empires series...but I am definetly willing to entertain other potential platforms in the future.
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Post by Amarr Empire on Nov 9, 2014 5:02:28 GMT
One quick note is Lords of the black sun is horrible. IMO it makes Star Drive look amazing in comparison, which while it had a lot of potential (re startdrive) it was abandoned.
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Post by Solvani Imperium on Nov 9, 2014 10:07:04 GMT
One quick note is Lords of the black sun is horrible. IMO it makes Star Drive look amazing in comparison, which while it had a lot of potential (re startdrive) it was abandoned. Could you elaborate? I've heard it has good diplomacy, government, and intelligence features. One of the things I'd like to do is beyond finding a replacement game is to collect a list of features/changes to possible create a new game or mod. I have about two pages of notes for things I'd like to see in a space 4X. I'll try to make them semi-coherent and post them. |
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Post by Amarr Empire on Nov 9, 2014 21:33:14 GMT
I downloaded it and gave it a shot after it was initially released and it just seemed really simplistic and half baked.
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Dec 24, 2014 6:04:14 GMT
I'm willing to help work through and evaluate the top options here (in comparison to SE4) Star Ruler 2 & Distant Worlds, which seem the best currently playable and released options on the list. Star Ruler 2 is cheaper, so we might start there, if anyone is interested?
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Post by Amarr Empire on Dec 24, 2014 6:39:41 GMT
Distant Worlds is real time, and IMO kind of over rated.
I own SR2 but I'm pretty sure that is still in development. I need to sit down with it and give it a try.
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Dec 24, 2014 6:46:08 GMT
Yeah real-time doesn't work, has to be something we can push into long-term turn based diplomacy.
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Dec 24, 2014 20:38:54 GMT
I just read a post about star ruler 2 claiming that the game just got a big bugfix and content patch and that (supposedly) it's basically in a complete state. Picked it up now and giving it a whirl.
Edit:
Not turn based.
Still, a very well tuned and fun game, so far.
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Dec 24, 2014 22:29:47 GMT
Star Ruler 2, further analysis: it attempts to make the 4x genre less deep and makes some undesirable changes, although there are some merits still. It feels a bit like the difference between Civ 4 and Civ Rev. Interesting, graphically compelling, but childlike in comparison to SEIV.
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Post by Dominion of Zabéara on Dec 25, 2014 5:41:24 GMT
For all its flaws, its just so hard to find a game that matches SE's a) customizability, b) depth c) adaptability. And yeah, turn based is kind of a must.
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Post by Solvani Imperium on Dec 27, 2014 23:38:27 GMT
The Truth is Out There...
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Dec 28, 2014 6:46:52 GMT
I tweaked the list a little bit - A bunch of the top entries I tested out and just don't work (not turn based, or not RP possible or grand strategy games) - provided that's what we're looking for? Basically an updated SE4 (which is an updated MOO2).
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Post by Solvani Imperium on Jan 6, 2015 5:39:29 GMT
I tweaked the list a little bit - A bunch of the top entries I tested out and just don't work (not turn based, or not RP possible or grand strategy games) - provided that's what we're looking for? Basically an updated SE4 (which is an updated MOO2). Thanks! |
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Post by The Kortl Rheus on Jan 7, 2015 6:58:35 GMT
I've been reviewing predestination information and it seems the most promising of all the listed games. It is due to enter alpha/beta/early release at any moment now and promises to be the only game which has all of the requirements. It also comes out in early release format fairly soon.
It seems to have more depth than SE4 (in depth and micromanagement ability) and also is pretty much the ONLY 4x that will have a PBEM style of turn play we can fit into a long epic game like this one. Everything else about it just appears to be fantastic, and the game is designed with modding in mind.
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